Free Agency and Trades / Rumors and Truths

Antonio Smith à Houston.

Tous les joueurs que Tampa suit sont entrain de partir ailleurs.

On a énormément de cap, mais on est pas du tout aggressif.

Ce qui est sûr c'est que les Bucs ont mis un beau bordel à Denver. Ils auraient proposé un échange à trois pour récupérer Cutler et que Denver récupère Cassel en plus de picks.
Les infos depuis sont contradictoires certains journalistes disent que Denver a été très intéressé et d'autres disent qu'ils se sont contentés d'écouter puis de rejeter.

Depuis Cutler pense que le nouveau staff veut s'en débarasser... Ca commence bien pour Mc Daniel

nordcore a écrit:

C'est confirmé pour Dawkins à Denver

Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh

Très très bon coup des broncos.Ce gars est encore une terreur.les eagles fan vont le regretter.C'est le safety qu'il fallait pour les broncos.Pour cuttler ça serait une erreur monumentale de le perdre.

Sprinterson a écrit:

Cassel chez les Chiefs.

EDIT : Vrabel fait partie du trade apparemment, reste à savoir contre quoi. Le 3rd round pick ? Je vois déjà Aaron Curry chez les Pats.
Une 3e équipe est impliqué dans le deal. Suspens :d

Erreur, je pense... Les Chiefs auraient mieux fait de miser sur Thigpen.
Enfin, je préfère que ce soit les Chiefs qui prennent ce risque plutôt que les 49ers.

tjrscowboys a écrit:

Très très bon coup des broncos.Ce gars est encore une terreur.les eagles fan vont le regretter.C'est le safety qu'il fallait pour les broncos.Pour cuttler ça serait une erreur monumentale de le perdre.

D'accord avec toi

Canty chez les Giants ! Ca va faire une DL monstrueuse : Umenyiora, Tuck, Kiwanuka, Canty, Bernard, Cofield, Robbins... Ca fait beaucoup.

Le trade est maintenant fait etc...mais cet article est franchement édifiant :

Citation :

Circumstances surrounding the Matt Cassel trade keep getting curiouser and curiouser.

The more we learn, the more inexplicable it gets.

The New England Patriots sent Cassel and linebacker Mike Vrabel to the Kansas City Chiefs for the 34th overall selection in this year's draft, compensation that seemed a little weak on the surface.

ESPN's Chris Mortensen has since reported there was a much better offer on the table, that the Patriots passed on the 12th overall pick in a three-way trade that would've sent Denver Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

The Patriots did business with Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli, who for the previous nine years worked closely with Bill Belichick in the Patriots' front office. It must be noted new Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels was Belichick's offensive coordinator in New England.

Mort and I have exchanged a few e-mails on the subject. Here is how he broke down the proposed three-way deal:

This one defies logic, but a source I really trust tells me it's true: The Broncos were willing to offer their own first-round pick (12th overall) to the Patriots for Cassel. Obviously, it was conditional upon Cutler being traded and Tampa Bay was the most likely destination, the Bucs willing to part with their first- and third-round picks.

But Belichick never embraced a trade with the Broncos, even though it was a head-scratcher on the value part (second-rounder versus a first-rounder). It suggests two or three speculative thoughts:

Belichick has always valued second-round picks (he now has three) and didn't want to be stuck at No. 12 financially for whatever reason;
Belichick had an agreement with Pioli all along and wouldn't break his word;
Belichick isn't about to help another former assistant.
The Broncos sensed resistance all along, which is why they held the Bucs, Lions, Vikings, etc., at arm's length and allows McDaniels his plausible deniability on trading Cutler (and logic supports his denial).

However, despite intense efforts to keep this run at Cassel under wraps, enough damage has been done that Cutler may now be on the block.

The Broncos/Cutler aspect of the trade was reported by the Boston Globe. A Patriots' leak? Why? To mess with McDaniels?

Mort is correct. The information is astounding.


Several citizens of Patriot Nation have written into my AFC East mailbag and left notes in the comments section that Belichick didn't want a first-round pick for Cassel, that a second-rounder is more financially palatable.

Ridiculous, I say. The Patriots had the No. 10 pick last year and were highly successful with it, selecting defensive rookie of the year Jerod Mayo, a franchise player who could anchor their defense for the next decade.

The No. 12 pick is a commodity. The Patriots might've traded it for additional picks, dangling it on draft day to a team that has the hots for, say, quarterback Mark Sanchez, and don't want him to get away.

Mort left me with one last thought:

It is also interesting that Pioli made the trade without doing a deal with Cassel. This puts a lot of leverage on Cassel's side going forward. Then again, Pioli probably sensed Cassel would have preferred McDaniels and the Broncos for all the obvious reasons, which may have influenced negotiations in Cassel's favor anyway. AFC West rivalry revived here.

That's a lot to think about.

What do you think happened?

Keith Lewis qui signe chez les Cardinals. Merde!
Pour les faire chier, on a qu'à signer Kurt Warner.

Le torchon brule entre le nouveau coach des Broncos et Jay "J'ai faillit gicler" Cutler.
Cutler est furieux d'avoir été mentionné dans la tentative de trade pour récupérer Cassel aux Pats. Le new coach des Broncos dit qu'il n'a jamais tenté ce trade mais son nez s'allonge quand il parle du sujet...

Urlacher a écrit:

Le torchon brule entre le nouveau coach des Broncos et Jay "J'ai faillit gicler" Cutler.
Cutler est furieux d'avoir été mentionné dans la tentative de trade pour récupérer Cassel aux Pats. Le new coach des Broncos dit qu'il n'a jamais tenté ce trade mais son nez s'allonge quand il parle du sujet...

Que le torchon brule pour de bon, et que Cutler soit trader chez nous contre le 20e pick

En tout cas si Cutler se barre (c qd même pas gagné) les Broncos n'auront plus que leurs yeux pour pleurer... à vouloir jouer au c..

Urlacher a écrit:

En tout cas si Cutler se barre (c qd même pas gagné) les Broncos n'auront plus que leurs yeux pour pleurer... à vouloir jouer au c..

pour suivre de très près l'actualité des Broncos je me demande de plus en plus si ce n'est pas Cutler qui tente de jouer au con et pas l'inverse. Il semblerait qu'il ait demandé un échange quand Jeremy Bates ( le fils de l'autre ) a été remercié par Mc Daniel à son arrivée. Bates était chargé d'appeler les jeux la saison passée et il était plus ou moins son confident.

Beaucoup de fans des Broncos se demandent aujourd'hui si Cutler ne prend pas comme prétexte cette histoire d'échange avec les Pats pour mettre la pression une fois de plus. Après tout , c'est le boulot d'un HC et d'un GM d'étudier les propositions de trades qui leur sont formulées. Je ne vois pas en quoi la diva Cutler doit se sentir offusquée.

En bref, Cutler a un énorme potentiel mais il faut qu'il grandisse un peu le pépère... à ce moment là il pourra devenir un grand QB. Shanahan était très cool avec lui...et il doit sentir un peu le vent tourner avec le nouveau staff. Ce n'est pas pour me déplaire.

Cutler a un enorme potentiel.les broncos c'est l'equipe qu'il lui faut.
Il a avec lui des receveurs qui peuvent largement aller au prochain pro bowl.Une ligne offensive solide.Il irait ou?les journalistes sont en grosse partie responsable du conflit il faut quelque chose a se mettre sous la dent.
Cutler va rester a denver et nous faire une saison a la drew bress.
Sinon coté giants felicitation pour chris canty ce gars est un monstre.
A choisir entre lui et haynesworth je choisi canty sans problème le gars na aucun probleme de blessures et joue avec la douleur.C'est un monstre.
Mais le gars baisse très vite les bras quand il est bouffé par un offensive lineman.Il lui manque un peu de hargne.
A dallas il a fait un excellent travail de l'ombre pour demarcus ware.
maintenant dans un 4-3 du style des giants il va pouvoir utiliser ses capacités.Très grosse perte des cowboys.Les giants ont fait la transaction parfaite.

Yahoo Sports
Astounding allegations: Bill Belichick did something friendly
By MJD

Of course, this "something friendly" would also be unethical and possibly a gross violation of NFL rules, but that's not the astounding part.
What's astounding is the notion that Bill Belichick would do anything out of friendship, or really, out of any motivation other than winning. I've always seen him as the type of guy who would insist on being the banker in Monopoly, so he could steal money fake money.
The action in question is the Patriots' trading of Matt Cassel to the Kansas City Chiefs for a second-round draft pick. Why is this the source of controversy? Because everyone assumed the Patriots could get a lot more for Cassel than a lonely second-rounder, and because the guy Belichick did trade Cassel to is Scott Pioli, his old pal who helped assemble the Patriots championship teams.
The thinking is that Belichick traded Cassel to the Chiefs at a discount as a favor to his old pal Pioli. At least three people have outright accused Belichick of it, or at least hinted at it: Jay Mariotti compares the trade to Spygate and thinks Roger Goodell needs to take action, Albert Breer talks about the head-scratching going on around the league, and Tim Graham calls the trade "inexplicable."
Graham also reports, via Chris Mortensen, that the Patriots could have gotten a first-round pick, the 12th overall, for Cassel in a three-way trade that would've also involved Jay Cutler, but we'll get to that a bit later. In the meantime, here's a nutshell version of the two different ways of seeing the Cassel-to-KC deal.
1) The "This was an honest trade" side. Bill Belichick would never do anything to hurt his own cause, Cassel still had a lot to prove as a quarterback and the Patriots desperately didn't want to be on the hook to Cassel for $14 million this season, especially if they believe Tom Brady will be healthy.
2) The "Oh, this trade is stinky" side. There's Belichick's reputation as a man who, shall we say, is willing to bend the occasional rule, The Belichick/Pioli relationship, the reports that the Bucs were willing to go as high as a first-and-a-third rounder and not only did Kansas City get Cassel cheap, but the Patriots threw in Mike Vrabel as well.
The stumbling block for me is trying to believe that Bill Belichick did something for the good of some other football team. He's going to give some other team a discount, because he wants to do someone a favor? I just don't see it.
This is Bill Belichick we're talking about here. He'd cheat in a game of Connect Four against a poor orphan child. He didn't become the coach he is by doing people "favors."
Related: Jay Cutler, Matt Cassel, Tom Brady, Kansas City Chiefs, New England Patriots, NFL League Issues

Probably not much to it, but I was bored, stuck at home due to a snowstorm. But I was wondering why they let Cassell go for so cheap.

2009 Remaining Unrestricted Free Agents


The Associated Press The Associated Press – Sun Mar 1, 10:29 pm ETUnsigned free agents with more than four years of NFL exp

Arizona

Monty Beisel, LB; Bertrand Berry, DE; Elton Brown, OL; Ralph Brown, CB; Karlos Dansby (f); Ben Graham; P; Eric Green, CB; Clark Haggans, LB; Scott Peters, OL; Terrelle Smith, FB; Brian St. Pierre, QB; Jerame Tuman, TE; Kurt Warner, QB.

Atlanta

Chauncey Davis, DE; Wayne Gandy, OT; Tony Gilbert, LB; Grady Jackson, DT; Jason Jefferson, DT; Lawyer Milloy, S; Marcus Pollard, TE; Coy Wire, LB.

Baltimore

Kyle Boller, QB; Todd Bouman, QB; Terrance Copper; Corey Ivy; CB; Jim Leonhard, S; Ray Lewis, LB; Lorenzo Neal, FB; Chad Slaughter, OL; Matt Stover, K; Terrell Suggs, DE/LB (f); Daniel Wilcox, TE.

Buffalo

Kirk Chambers, OL; Angelo Crowell, LB; Melvin Fowler, OL; Jabari Greer, CB; Teddy Lehman, LB; J.P. Losman, QB; Corey McIntyre, RB; Duke Preston, OL; Jason Whittle, OL.

Carolina

Donte' Curry, LB; Mark Jones, WR/KR; Jason Kyle, LB; Julius Peppers, DE (f); Adam Seward, LB; Darwin Walker, DT.

Chicago

Mike Brown, S; Rex Grossman, QB; Kevin Jones, RB; Brandon Lloyd, WR; Darrell McClover, LB; Brandon McGowan, S; Fred Miller, OL; John St. Clair, OL; Cameron Worrell, S.

Cincinnati

Cedric Benson, RB; Darryl Blackstock, LB; Jamar Fletcher, CB; Eric Ghiaciuc, OL; Shayne Graham (f); T.J. Houshmandzadeh, WR; John Thornton, DT.

Cleveland

Mike Adams, S; Travis Daniels, CB; Andra Davis, LB; Darnell Dinkins, TE; Lennie Friedman, G/C; Kris Griffin, LB; Daven Holly; CB; Sean Jones, S; Willie McGinest, LB; Seth McKinney, G; Shantee Orr, LB; Jason Wright, RB; Scott Young, OL.

Dallas

Brooks Bollinger, QB; Kevin Burnett, LB; Keith Davis, S; Tank Johnson, DT; Carlos Polk, LB; Zach Thomas, LB.

Denver

Tatum Bell, RB; Ebenezer Ekuban, DE; Darrell Jackson, WR; Marlon McCree, S; Tom Nalen, C; Karl Paymah, CB; Kenny Peterson, DE; Michael Pittman, RB; Jeb Putzier, TE; Patrick Ramsey, QB; Edell Shepherd, DB; Nate Webster, LB.

Detroit

Aveion Cason, RB; Shaun Cody, DT; Keary Colbert, WR; Damion Cook, OL; George Foster, OT; Rudi Johnson, RB; Paris Lenon; LB; Andy McCollum, G/C; Shaun McDonald, WR; Langston Moore, DT; Ryan Nece, LB; Moran Norris, RB; John Owens, TE; Corey Smith, DE; Stanley Wilson, CB.

Green Bay

Mike Montgomery, DE; Mark Tauscher, T.

Houston

C.C. Brown, S; Mark Bruener, TE; DeMarcus Faggins, CB; Nick Ferguson, S; Scott Jackson, OL; Bryan Pittman, OL; Dunta Robinson; CB (f); Cecil Sapp, RB; Jimmy Williams CB; Jeff Zgonina, DT.

Indianapolis

Matt Giordano, S; Tyjuan Hagler, LB; Keiwan Ratliff, CB; Dominic Rhodes, RB; Hunter Smith, P; Josh Thomas, DE.

Jacksonville

Khalif Barnes, T; Chris Naeole, G; Mike Peterson, LB; Pierson Prioleau, S; Gerald Sensabaugh, S; Reggie Williams, WR.

Kansas City

Jason Babin, LB; Rocky Boiman, LB; Oliver Celestin, S; Adrian Jones, G; Jon McGraw, S; Patrick Thomas, LB.

Miami

Al Johnson, C; Tab Perry, WR; Derek Smith, LB.

Minnesota

Kenderick Allen, DT; Matt Birk, C; Michael Boulware, S; Heath Farwell, LB; Napoleon Harris, LB; Marcus Johnson, T; Jimmy Kennedy, DT; Benny Sapp, CB; Darren Sharper, S; Dontarrious Thomas, LB; Ellis Wyms, DT.

New England

Rosevelt Colvin, LB; Heath Evans, RB; Chris Hanson, P; Rodney Harrison, S; Russ Hochstein, OL; Larry Izzo, LB; LaMont Jordan, RB; Deltha O'Neal, CB; James Sanders, S; Lewis Sanders, CB; Junior Seau, LB; Kenny Smith, DT; Barry Stokes, OL; Tank Williams, S; Mike Wright, DT.

New Orleans

Josh Bullocks, S; Mark Campbell, TE; Aaron Glenn, CB; Martin Gramatica, K; Joey Harrington, QB; Devery Henderson, WR; Terrence Holt, S; Antwan Lake, DT; Mike Lehan, CB; Matt Lehr, G; James Reed, DT; Aaron Stecker, RB.

New York Giants

James Butler, S; John Carney, K; Jerome McDougle, DE; R.W. McQuarters, CB/KR; Grey Ruegamer, G/C; Rich Scanlon, LB; Amani Toomer, WR; Derrick Ward, RB; Anthony Wright, QB; Renaldo Wynn, DL.

N.Y. Jets

Eric Barton, LB; Ahmad Carroll, CB; Jesse Chatman, RB; Laveranues Coles, WR; Jay Feely, K; Bubba Franks, TE; Ty Law, CB; C.J. Mosley, DT; Mike Nugent, K; Hank Poteat, CB; J.R. Reed, S; Cody Spencer, LB.

Oakland

Rashad Baker, S; Cooper Carlisle, G; Drew Carter, WR; Isaiah Ekejiuba, LB; Jake Grove, C; William Joseph, DT; Ashley Lelie, WR; Justin Miller, CB; Tony Stewart, TE; Marques Tuiasosopo, QB; Sam Williams, LB.

Philadelphia

Jon Runyan, T; L.J. Smith, TE; Tra Thomas, T.

Pittsburgh

Charlie Batch, QB; Mitch Berger, P; Fernando Bryant, CB; Trai Essex, OL; Keyaron Fox, LB; Andre Frazier, LB; Byron Leftwich, QB; Bryant McFadden, CB; Orpheus Roye, DE; Marvel Smith, T; Nate Washington, WR.

St. Louis

Oshiomogho Atogwe, S (f); Ronald Bartell, CB; Fakhir Brown, CB; Jason Craft, CB; Anthony Davis, OL; La' Roi Glover, DT; Adam Goldberg, G; Brandon Gorin, OL; Dante' Hall, WR/KR; Nick Leckey, OL; Dane Looker, WR; Ricky Manning Jr., CB; Travis Minor, RB; Eric Moore, DE; Rob Pettiti, OL; Brett Romberg, OL; Gary Stills, LB; Cory Withrow, OL.

San Diego

Mike Goff, G; Marques Harris, LB; Jeremy Newberry, C; Igor Olshansky, DE; Darren Sproles, RB/KR (f).

San Francisco

Billy Bajema, TE; Damane Duckett, DT; Ronald Fields, DT; DeShaun Foster, RB; Roderick Green, DE; Bryant Johnson, WR; Jamie Martin, QB; J.T. O'Sullivan, QB; Sean Ryan, TE; Donald Strickland, CB.

Seattle

Bobby Engram, WR; Charlie Frye, QB; Chris Gray, G; Howard Green, DT; Will Heller, TE; Leroy Hill, LB (f); D.D. Lewis, LB; Wesly Mallard, LB; Steve McKinney, G; Jeff Robinson, TE; Koren Robinson, WR; Leonard Weaver, FB; Ray Willis, T; Floyd Womack, T.

Tampa Bay

Will Allen, S; Antonio Bryant, WR (f); Philip Buchanon, CB; Kevin Carter, DE; Patrick Chukwurah, LB; Jeff Garcia, QB; Cortez Hankton, WR; Jovan Haye, DT; Jermaine Phillips, S; Jerramy Stevens, TE.

Tennessee

Chris Carr, CB/KR; Craig Hentrich, P; Reynaldo Hill, CB; Daniel Loper, OL; Justin McCareins, WR; Tyrone Poole, CB; Bo Scaife, TE (f); Chris Simms, QB.

Washington

Ryan Boschetti, DT; Khary Campbell, LB; Phillip Daniels, DE; Demetric Evans, DE; Jason Fabini, OL; Alfred Fincher, LB; Mike Green, S; Pete Kendall, G.
Ya encore d'excellent joeurs sur le marché et j'en oublie beaucoup.Les bucs n'ont encore rien signer mais ça va venir.

Cutler voudrait etre tradé.

Tampa, Minnesota et Detroit serait sur le coup.

Tampa aurait proposé leur 1er et 3è tour lors de la tentative de trade à 3 avec Cassell.

C'est sur que Cutler est un bon jeune QB, mais ca peut faire cher payé.

Cutler a de bons rating, mais il lance bcp d'interceptions, à voir s'il pourrait aller dans le nouveau système offensif des Bucs.

je ne vois plus Denver céder Cutler maintenant. ça fait un tel foin qu'il faudrait une offre vraiment faramineuse pour que les Broncos l'échangent à mon sens.

Accepter un échange en dessous d'un premier tour dans les dix premiers picks (Cutler a été drafté en 11ème position) serait perçu comme une énorme bévue par les fans des Broncos vu ce qui se dit sur les forums comme orangemane. Et même en imaginant ce scénario je souhaite bon courage à Mc Daniel après un coup comme ça...

Cutler faitbeaucoup de bruit pour pas grand chose et il li reste trois ans de contrat donc...

tjrscowboys a écrit:

Cutler a un enorme potentiel.les broncos c'est l'equipe qu'il lui faut.
Il a avec lui des receveurs qui peuvent largement aller au prochain pro bowl.Une ligne offensive solide.Il irait ou?les journalistes sont en grosse partie responsable du conflit il faut quelque chose a se mettre sous la dent.
Cutler va rester a denver et nous faire une saison a la drew bress.
Sinon coté giants felicitation pour chris canty ce gars est un monstre.
A choisir entre lui et haynesworth je choisi canty sans problème le gars na aucun probleme de blessures et joue avec la douleur.C'est un monstre.

Trop de compliments en même temps et sur mes deux équipes je ne suis pas habitué je suis tout ému ... Tu vas me faire pleurer

DE Jason Taylor vient de se faire cutter par les Skins...
Il a pas voulu aller au offseason workout...

C'est un DE sur le déclin mais un ancien MVP Def, ca peut toujours etre utile...

TJH à Seattle... normalement.

Même pas peur...

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/03/breaking-housh-headed-to-seattle/

RB Derrick Ward à Tampa

Mc Daniels coupe court aux rumeurs:

Citation :

NFL.com

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. -- Denver Broncos head coach Josh McDaniels, who plans to meet with Jay Cutler sometime next week, told NFL Network's Adam Schefter that the disgruntled Pro Bowl quarterback will not be traded despite rampant rumors.
Mile-high issues

“Let me be as clear as I can about this,” McDaniels said when reached at his office Tuesday afternoon. “We are not trading Jay Cutler — period.”

The Broncos hope the meeting will help the two men repair their relationship, which became strained after Cutler became unhappy over trade talks. The team said the conversation between Cutler and McDaniels will take place once the quarterback returns to Denver from Nashville, Tenn.

Cutler is upset that he was the subject of trade talks for Matt Cassel, who eventually was dealt from the New England Patriots to the Kansas City Chiefs, and has suggested that his relationship with first-year coach McDaniels has become tense.

Cutler was angered during the weekend when his name came up in talks involving a three-way trade that would have sent him to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and landed Cassel in Denver.

McDaniels was the offensive coordinator last year in New England, where he tutored Cassel, a career backup who led the Patriots to an 11-5 season after Tom Brady was injured during the season opener.

Cutler, who is preparing to learn the intricate New England-style offense after working in the West Coast system during his first three NFL seasons, was miffed that McDaniels even entertained the notion of dealing him to another team. Cutler also said he believed he still would be traded.

Cutler, who has three years left on the six-year deal that he signed with the Broncos as a rookie, set numerous team records last season, including single-season passing yards (4,526), completions (384) and 300-yard games (eight).


However, Cutler and the Broncos squandered a three-game AFC West lead with three games to go, missing out on the playoffs for a third consecutive season and costing former coach Mike Shanahan his job after 14 seasons in Denver.

Cutler is 17-20 with no playoff appearances since replacing Jake Plummer as the Broncos' starting quarterback late in the 2006 season.

McDaniels, 32, was hired as the new coach in January, and the Broncos promoted Brian Xanders, 37, to general manager last month. Both of them report directly to team owner Pat Bowlen, who hasn't publicly addressed the rift between his new coach and his temperamental quarterback.

En gros Cutler sera un Bronco la saison prochaine!

Drole de décision à Tampa.

Les Bucs aurait signer K Nugent, alors qu'on a Matt Bryant.
Et voudrait resigner le TE Stevens, alors qu'on a tradé TE Winslow

Warner reste avec les Cards encore deux ans pour 23 millions dont 19 garantis.