[Leur objectif? 2008... ou pas] 49ers topic / 2007 edition

Effectivement, avec les ajouts d'off season et de la draft, on a une équipe qui pourra se trouver en playoff la prochaine saison. L'attaque comporte plusieurs presque excellentes cibles pour Alex Smith. Il va être vachement bien protégé par une belle ligne offensive. Y'a qu'au niveau du C que j'ai quelques doutes encore mais bon...
Et la défense commence à ressembler à quelque chose de beau.
Donc playoffs ou la saison sera décevante.

EDIT:
Nos ptits rookies vus par EA:
Patrick Willis


Joe Staley

DRAFT 2007 - 49ers-





Ce qu'en pensent les "experts" :

NCH a écrit:

PATRICK WILLIS - A+
Ray Lewis clone, great character, great player, simply bad ass and will lead to the eventual termination of Derek Smith's contract.

JOE STALEY - B-
Nice upside due to his superb athleticism, but isn't really a great fit for the Warhop power scheme at RT (doubt he'd supplant Jonas Jennings anytime soon) and the 49ers gave up a first to trade up to get him, which is the reasoning for the minus. Much rather have gotten Justin Blalock with that same pick, or even better, trade up earlier for Dwayne Bowe instead.

COLTS TRADE - A
2008 1st and a 4th from a 2nd rd pick #10. Wow, did the Colts get themselves ripped off.

A bit disappointed that we didn't take Brian Leonard at #42 though. He will torture us for at least a decade in St. Louis playing next to Stephen Jackson... will quickly become best starting RB duo in the league, even better than Bush/McCallister because Jackson is the second best RB in the league after Tomlinson and Leonard brings so much ability to the fullback position if played there. They'd basically be the modern Roger Craig/Tom Rathman duo.

JASON HILL - C+
Good value for him, but not really what the team needs at wideout, adding yet another #2-type of receiver to a receiving corps filled with #2s and #3s... not to mention adding him doesn't give our receiving corps a big, physical receiver (Ashley Lelie is tall but plays extremely soft, Jackson is good but short, Battle is average but also short). I'd much rather have moved up and given up the 2nd and this same exact 3rd rounder and gotten Dwayne Bowe instead.

RAY MCDONALD - C+
Has potential to be a 3-4 DE, but at this point is like Oliver where he lacks the ideal weight to play in the scheme at 285 lbs (was 276 at the combine due to food poisoning). Has experience at DT and DE and can play two gaps to some extent. Pretty serious knee problems as well, which is why he dropped so far.

JAY MOORE - B
While not timing on the 40 particularly great, Moore showed a lot of athletic ability and good feet at the Senior Bowl and Combine while also having an impressive shuttle. I believe the team was targetting Brian Robison, but the Vikings made a trade up and took him before we could, unfortunately.

SEAHAWKS TRADE - A-
The value for this trade was incredible, we got a legit starting WR for a late 4th round pick. The trade itself is A+ material, but the fact that Darrell Jackson STILL doesn't add to this team a big, physical #1 wideout drops it to A minus.

DASHON GOLDSON - C
He's an ok pickup, but lacks the preferred speed that you'd like as a nickel or dime corner. However, could potentially compete with Marcus Hudson as the backup cover safety. A bit of a reach IMO.

JOE COHEN - B
Good value for a player that could potentially develop into a pretty good 3-4 DE, or even NT with his frame and ability to add and subtract weight with relative ease. He's a better 3-4 DE prospect than McDonald is IMO. The guy is a former H-Back and is up to 313 lbs and put up 34 reps on the bench at the combine.

TARELL BROWN - C-
Wait, doesn't the front office stress high character guys? Brown is a very good talent and value, but he's been arrested several times on drug and gun charges, including a recent one from two months ago. Why invite that type of onto this team? Him and Eric Wright were considered the "Pac Man Jones" prospects of this draft. Well, at least he's an honor roll student.

THOMAS CLAYTON - B-
A great talent with nice size, natural ability and hands and a steal this late in the draft. However, red flags on him include being found guilty of battery last year, which led to being suspended for one game... also was demoted to third string later in the season. Another guy that you'd think Nolan would stay away with character issues but a lot of potential if he can stay on track.

Overall Grade - B-
Patrick Willis and the trades with Indianapolis and Seattle were by far the best parts of the 2007 49ers draft. However, taking chances on a player with potentially chronic knees (McDonald), taking chances on players with off-the-field troubles (Brown and Clayton) and not addressing the lack of a physical presence in the wide receiver corps does serious damage to the overall grade.

yahoo a écrit:

Nine picks and Darrell Jackson make for a very good draft haul. Nabbing Jackson was a major score, giving the 49ers a player with the ability to be a No. 1 wideout. Piling that on top of linebacker Patrick Willis and offensive tackle Joe Staley, and the 49ers added talent fast. Willis could be the next great middle linebacker in the NFL. And Staley has the athleticism to be a top tackle if he's developed properly. Both wideout Jason Hill and defensive end Ray McDonald could turn out to be sleepers in the third round. Defensive tackle Joe Cohen offers good value in the fourth round and should add quality depth to the defensive line.
Grade: A

foxsports a écrit:

Czar's breakdown: This draft might end up comparing favorably with some of ex-coach Bill Walsh's top drafts. Ole Miss middle linebacker Patrick Willis was the worst-kept secret in the draft. San Francisco head coach Mike Nolan fell in love with him at the Senior Bowl and he tagged Willis early as his kind of player. They made a smart trade to acquire Central Michigan OT Joe Staley and Washington State WR Jason Hill was one of the Pac-10's most productive receivers, converting 158 receptions into 111 first downs and 32 touchdowns. Hill could be the playmaker that Alex Smith covets. They also traded a fourth-rounder to Seattle for WR Darrell Jackson, the third-leading wide receiver in Seahawks' history. Jackson, who had knee tendonitis, wore out his welcome in Seattle despite leading the club receptions last season. Deion Branch made him expendable. Nebraska DE Jay Moore has a chance to be a solid pro and a standup outside linebacker. Moore is another player, like Willis, that Nolan fell in love with at the Senior Bowl. Now, the 49ers did take a character risk in Texas CB Tarell Brown, but waited until the fifth round to do it. But Brown, who has a difficult off-the-field background, was a three-year starter at Texas and that's something very positive.

Grade: A+

ça promet de belles choses ! esperons que ça ne fasse pas comme en politique

Double C a écrit:

Tant que Staley dégage Kwame Harris du 11 de départ, ça me va.
Sinon, le corps de WRs prend tout de même forme, même si on a toujours pas de #1 indiscutable.

pour le coup, je me demande si ça n'aurait pas valu le coup de s'intéresser au cas randy moss: ça a couté un 4° tour aussi, et il a restructurer son contrat pour couter moins cher.
ce n'est pas une position que je prends. je pense que récupérer D-Jax est une très bonne chose. mais, il y avait peut être qq chose à voir du coté de Moss.

dans l'ensemnle, je suis asez content de la draft.
j'avoue avoir un peu fait des bon quand on a trader pour staley. pas pour le joueur, mais pour le coût du deal: notre 1° pick en 2008. mais avec notre deal suivant qui nous a permis de récupérer le 1° pick des colts, ça va.
Jason Hill, je ne connais pas trop. une chose est sure , il est très rapide; donc ça nous donne potentiellement une cible sur les deep threat. mais bon, on disait ça de williams l'an dernier. résultat: 0 passe captée en 2006et des perf en return acceptable au mieux.

pour le reste, je constate qu'on reprend des De pour les faire passer en OLB. le tout c'est qu'ils apprennent à se relever; et ça c'est pas fait.

joemontana a écrit:

Jason Hill, je ne connais pas trop. une chose est sure , il est très rapide; donc ça nous donne potentiellement une cible sur les deep threat.

C'était pas déjà le role d'Ashley Lelie à Denver ?
A moins de 15 yards, il ne captait rien.

joemontana a écrit:

pour le coup, je me demande si ça n'aurait pas valu le coup de s'intéresser au cas randy moss: ça a couté un 4° tour aussi, et il a restructurer son contrat pour couter moins cher.
ce n'est pas une position que je prends. je pense que récupérer D-Jax est une très bonne chose. mais, il y avait peut être qq chose à voir du coté de Moss.

Randy Moss ne voulait aller que chez les Pats... c'est d'ailleurs pour cela qu'il a accepté de restructurer son contrat.

ENTOMBED a écrit:

joemontana a écrit:

Jason Hill, je ne connais pas trop. une chose est sure , il est très rapide; donc ça nous donne potentiellement une cible sur les deep threat.

C'était pas déjà le role d'Ashley Lelie à Denver ?
A moins de 15 yards, il ne captait rien.

si, si. c'est pour ça que je reste très prudent. d'où le "potentiellement"

Ninerolog a écrit:

Pas une petite ressemblance avec un ancien receveur il y a quelques années ce petit Willis ?

Ouais je lui trouve un air de TO moi. Espérons que l'habit...

Citation :

Maurice Hicks signs contract
Thursday, May 3, 2007 at 23:42:52 PT
Source: 49erswebzone.com

According to Sirius Radio, running back Maurice Hicks has signed his one year, $850,000 tendered contract with the 49ers.

In 2006, Hicks had 82 yards on 29 carries. He also had 13 receptions with 137 yards. His best year was in 2005 when he had 308 yards on 59 carries, an average of 5.2 yards per carry.

On conserve notre KR et meilleur joueur d'unité spéciale. Bien, donc.

Citation :

49ers already strutting, but Nolan warns them
By Matthew Barrows - Bee Staff Writer
Published 12:00 am PDT Tuesday, May 8, 2007

SANTA CLARA-The 49ers suddenly are a trendy pick for the playoffs, and judging by the body language during last weekend's minicamp, the players believe they're going places, too.

Tentative for much of last season, linebacker Manny Lawson now prowls the line of scrimmage like a puma itching to be sprung from a cage. On offense, tight end Vernon Davis catches touchdown passes and then tells everyone within earshot that he can't be stopped.

Lawson and Davis personify the coltish 49ers, and it's a nice bit of poetry that the two 2006 first-round draft choices will be pitted against each other on the practice field throughout the season.

They offered a preview Saturday.

When Lawson thought Davis was grabbing at his jersey during the morning session, he dramatically took off the jersey, threw it at his offensive teammates and yelled, "If you want it, you can have it!" Davis responded by saying that Lawson was frustrated that he was getting beat.

Mike Nolan has no problem with all this swagger -- as long as there's substance behind it.

Before breaking camp Sunday, he gathered his players and told them that having high expectations is one thing. Living up to them is another.

"We're feeling good about ourselves, but if you don't pay the price, you don't get what you expect," he said. "We have a lot of work to do. The players see it -- all of that is good stuff -- but in the end you have to play the game on Sundays."

Still, it's not hard to see why the players are sticking their chests out this spring. The 49ers like to think they began their 2007 campaign with last year's season finale at Denver. San Francisco, after all, no longer had anything to play for in 2006. The 49ers were out of the playoffs, on the road and playing a Broncos team that needed to win to make the postseason.

The overtime victory, Lawson said, was like a shot of adrenaline that still hasn't worn off.

Add an impressive free-agent haul and a nine-man draft class that has widely been hailed as one of the best in the league, and you start to see why a team that hasn't made the playoffs since Steve Mariucci was coach suddenly sees itself as a contender.

In recent years, the reporters covering the team could look at the 80-man minicamp roster and quickly cross off the 27 names that would not make the final cut.

That task is a lot more difficult this season, and the position battles at receiver, linebacker and offensive line promise to be particularly compelling this summer.

Nolan calls this "flushing out the lower class," a term he has used repeatedly this spring.

No, he's not channeling Marie Antoinette (although the fashion-conscious coach would be a perfect fit at Versailles). Rather he's talking about eliminating all the seventh-round draft picks, undrafted free agents and guys off the street who have been right at home on the 49ers' roster in recent years.

On most teams, players like Otis Amey, Bruce Thornton, Trent Smith and Dwaine Carpenter would be training-camp bodies or, at best, candidates for the practice squad. On the 49ers, they had major roles, an indication of just how threadbare years of bad drafts and salary cap problems can make a roster.

Sure, guys like Amey, Thornton, Smith and Carpenter make great stories, and their hard work was appreciated by Nolan and his staff. This year, however, the 49ers have no use for guys like that.

This year, let them eat cake.

Les gars sont motivés, c'est déjà ça.
Par contre, le fait d'être "à la mode" m'enchante moins. On a vu ce qui est arrivé aux Dolphins ou autres Panthers quand tout le monde ou presque les voyait au Super Bowl, il n'y a pas longtemps.
J'espère que c'est juste un fantasme de la presse locale...

Cadeau pour mes niners brozers !

Le calendrier 2007 en wallpaper !



September 2007




October 2007




November 2007




December 2007

Joli

Merci beaucoup.

Il manquerait ptet le mois de janvier avec les Play Offs.

Melvin oliver out pour la saison!
il s'est apparemment niqué les ligaments croisés antérieurs du genou et devrait passer sur le billard rapidemment.
c'est dommage.
il a montré de bonne chose pour sa saison rookie.

joemontana a écrit:

Melvin oliver out pour la saison!
il s'est apparemment niqué les ligaments croisés antérieurs du genou et devrait passer sur le billard rapidemment.
c'est dommage.
il a montré de bonne chose pour sa saison rookie.

Comme il dise sur PFT, bizarre qu'un gars se blesse comme çà, alors que normalement ces mini-camps doivent être sans contact...

Krycek a écrit:

Comme il dise sur PFT, bizarre qu'un gars se blesse comme çà, alors que normalement ces mini-camps doivent être sans contact...

Malheuresement, ya pas forcement besoin de contact pour se peter les ligaments d'un genou.
Une mauvaise chute, un mauvais cut, et PIM le ligament

Cam a écrit:

Krycek a écrit:

Comme il dise sur PFT, bizarre qu'un gars se blesse comme çà, alors que normalement ces mini-camps doivent être sans contact...

Malheuresement, ya pas forcement besoin de contact pour se peter les ligaments d'un genou.
Une mauvaise chute, un mauvais cut, et PIM le ligament

Et ça arrive aux meilleurs aussi. Même chez les athlètes des Devils de Cenon.

oué, pareil pour les chevilles

Cam a écrit:

oué, pareil pour les chevilles

Sans parler des fans d'un WR de StLouis et qui pensent aussi être ASSEZ NOIR pour jouer au basket ! (je me désolidarise de ma blague à ce niveau du message)

Et PAF, Pastèque.

Ninerolog a écrit:

Tout cas j'suis super fier et moi aussi je serai en costard devant mon TV pour honorer ce bel état d'esprit !

De mieux en mieux, depuis que vous avez un semblant d'espoir de pouvoir aller en playoffs...

Julius_Holmes#31 a écrit:

depuis que vous avez un semblant d'espoir de pouvoir aller en playoffs...

Ca, tout le monde ne peut pas en dire autant !
"Cards are the next big thing"