[Don't mess with Singletary] 49ers Topic / 2008 Edition

Oui enfin Julius Pepper n'a jamais été la machine à sacker qu'on prédisait, pour moi c'est l'un des DE les plus surcoté de la NFL.

Il n'a jamais eu la production qu'il aurait du avoir, c'est à dire celle d'un Dwight Freeney par exemple.

Et concernant Pepper cette saison il a ete blessé, ce qui l'a amené à manquer deux matchs et jouer une partie de la saison diminué.

COncernant Smith ce que je trouve révélateur c'est que cette saison n'etait pas une saison a part mais une suite logique. Bon deja il n'a jamais dépassé 8.5 sacks sur une saison. Bref on sait que ce n'est pas un pass Rusher.

Quant à l'idée de le faire jouer debout...mouais je ne suis pas convaincu, mais a ce moment, qui serait les trois DL pour les niners en fait ?
Parce que Smith qui fait de la place pour les LB ca me paraissait être la meilleure solution.

c'est ce qui est prevu.

Peppers est un joueur bien plus complet qu'un Freeney qui ne fait uniquement que du pass rush.

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Sopoaga - Franklin - Smith

Oui non ca je sais en ce moment, mais c'etait dans l'hypothese ou Smith joue debout, c'est à dir en Lb, qui serait le troisième homme sur la ligne ?

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Peppers est un joueur bien plus complet qu'un Freeney qui ne fait uniquement que du pass rush.

Peppers est surtout sleon moi un joueur qui a plus de ptentiel mais qui est pour le moment un underachiever et il ne fait pas partie des DE dominateurs en ce moment en NFL.

Un Umenyura, Mario Williams, Dwight Freeney ou encore Allen et autre Kerney.

Alors oui Peppers est un bon DE mais très loin de ce qu'il devrait etre avec le potentiel qu'il a et la ou il a ete drafté et surtout vu l'investissement que font les Panthers avec lui.

Ray McDonald ou Ron Fields

Détails des "bases salaries" :

Justin Smith :

2008: $750,000
2009: $3,500,000
2010: $2,625,000
2011: $5,000,000
2012: $5,875,000
2013: $7,500,000

Dontarrious Thomas :

2008: $650,000
2009: $650,000

Allen Rossum :

2008: $830,000

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Here is the year-by-year breakdown of Smith's contract:
2008: SB $1.833, base $750,000, workout $500,000. Cap value: $3.083 million.
2009: SB $1.833, base $3.5 mill., roster bonus $4.75 mill., workout $500,000. Cap value: $10.583 million.
2010: SB $1.833, base $2.625 mill., roster bonus $1 mill., workout $500,000. Cap value: $5.958 million.
2011: SB $1.833, base $5 mill., workout $500,000. Cap value: $7.333 million.
2012: SB $1.834, base $5.875 mill., workout $500,000. Cap value: $8.209 million.
2013: SB $1.834, base $7.5 mill., workout $500,000. Cap value: $9.834 million.

Matt Barrows, Sacbee a écrit:

McCloughan talks pass rush, compensatories and 4-3 defense


Just got off a conference call with Scot McCloughan. A big part of the conversation was dedicated toward two perceived deficiencies on the 49ers’s roster – the pass rush and wide receiver. McCloughan essentially said the same thing about each: He acknowledged there are no superstars in those areas but said that there is enough depth to make him feel comfortable going into the season. He said the 49ers had no plans to add a big-name free agent at either spot but that both could be augmented through the draft.

First his thoughts on receiver. He said that he thought Isaac Bruce and Darrell Jackson likely were the No.s one and two receivers on the team. Under Mike Martz, there is going to be a big role for the No. 3 receiver – presumably Arnaz Battle – and that he expected Ashley Lelie and Jason Hill to figure heavily in the competition. He said he expected the offensive line to perform much better than it did in 2007, and he said the receiving corps would improve along with the better line play. “When all that comes together, it’s a functional group. Our receiving corps is good enough to win some games …” As far as drafting a receiver, McCloughan said the 49ers go into every draft hoping to find the best player available. It just so happens, he said, that a receiver who fits that description hasn’t fallen to them with their top picks.

As far as the pass rush … He said that Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson and Tully Banta-Cain were the team’s primary pass rushers and that he felt comfortable with that group. He said Jay Moore would provide more depth. He never mentioned Roderick Green. McCloughan said he hoped to add another name or two to the mix through the draft but that he felt the defense’s biggest improvements would come because of the offense. What does that mean? McCloughan said he felt the 49ers under Martz would be twice as good as the Jim Hostler-led unit from a year ago. An improved offense means the defense won’t be on the field as long and will remain fresher throughout the season.

Other McCloughan tidbits:

· He said the team was mostly done in free agency but that they probably will add an interior offensive lineman or two in the coming days. Don’t hold your breath for a big name. The additions likely will be backup-type players.

· He said the addition of Justin Smith gave the 49ers the option of becoming a primarily 4-3 defensive team next season. McCloughan said that if the 49ers draft a defensive end with the 29th overall pick next month, that alignment very well could be their base defense next season. The point was that players like Smith and Ray McDonald give the 49ers flexibility. Look for them to jump around from 4-3 to 3-4 regardless of whom they draft.

· He said that the 49ers could receive as many as two, three or four compensatory picks in the 2009 draft. While Justin Smith is their only high-priced free-agent pick-up, the team has lost Justin Smiley, Kwame Harris and Maurice Hicks, and they could lose Marques Douglas, too. As I wrote earlier, four teams – Tampa Bay, Tennessee, Arizona and Denver – are interested in Douglas. Certain additions, such as Dontarrious Thomas and J.T. O’Sullivan, might not count in the wacky compensatory formula because they fall below a certain salary threshold.

· As for Thomas, he will be given a chance to compete for the vacant “Ted” linebacker spot but also is tall and athletic enough to provide depth at outside linebacker. McCloughan said Brandon Moore and Jeff Ulbrich also would compete for the opening at Ted

· Look for the team to officially part ways with quarterback Trent Dilfer before the 15th when Dilfer is due a roster bonus

Wait and see donc...
Dilfer a annonce qu'il voulait rester a SF, mais plus forcement comme joueur.

kwyet a écrit:

Matt Barrows, Sacbee a écrit:

McCloughan talks pass rush, compensatories and 4-3 defense


Just got off a conference call with Scot McCloughan. A big part of the conversation was dedicated toward two perceived deficiencies on the 49ers’s roster – the pass rush and wide receiver. McCloughan essentially said the same thing about each: He acknowledged there are no superstars in those areas but said that there is enough depth to make him feel comfortable going into the season. He said the 49ers had no plans to add a big-name free agent at either spot but that both could be augmented through the draft.

First his thoughts on receiver. He said that he thought Isaac Bruce and Darrell Jackson likely were the No.s one and two receivers on the team. Under Mike Martz, there is going to be a big role for the No. 3 receiver – presumably Arnaz Battle – and that he expected Ashley Lelie and Jason Hill to figure heavily in the competition. He said he expected the offensive line to perform much better than it did in 2007, and he said the receiving corps would improve along with the better line play. “When all that comes together, it’s a functional group. Our receiving corps is good enough to win some games …” As far as drafting a receiver, McCloughan said the 49ers go into every draft hoping to find the best player available. It just so happens, he said, that a receiver who fits that description hasn’t fallen to them with their top picks.

As far as the pass rush … He said that Manny Lawson, Parys Haralson and Tully Banta-Cain were the team’s primary pass rushers and that he felt comfortable with that group. He said Jay Moore would provide more depth. He never mentioned Roderick Green. McCloughan said he hoped to add another name or two to the mix through the draft but that he felt the defense’s biggest improvements would come because of the offense. What does that mean? McCloughan said he felt the 49ers under Martz would be twice as good as the Jim Hostler-led unit from a year ago. An improved offense means the defense won’t be on the field as long and will remain fresher throughout the season.

Other McCloughan tidbits:

· He said the team was mostly done in free agency but that they probably will add an interior offensive lineman or two in the coming days. Don’t hold your breath for a big name. The additions likely will be backup-type players.

· He said the addition of Justin Smith gave the 49ers the option of becoming a primarily 4-3 defensive team next season. McCloughan said that if the 49ers draft a defensive end with the 29th overall pick next month, that alignment very well could be their base defense next season. The point was that players like Smith and Ray McDonald give the 49ers flexibility. Look for them to jump around from 4-3 to 3-4 regardless of whom they draft.

· He said that the 49ers could receive as many as two, three or four compensatory picks in the 2009 draft. While Justin Smith is their only high-priced free-agent pick-up, the team has lost Justin Smiley, Kwame Harris and Maurice Hicks, and they could lose Marques Douglas, too. As I wrote earlier, four teams – Tampa Bay, Tennessee, Arizona and Denver – are interested in Douglas. Certain additions, such as Dontarrious Thomas and J.T. O’Sullivan, might not count in the wacky compensatory formula because they fall below a certain salary threshold.

· As for Thomas, he will be given a chance to compete for the vacant “Ted” linebacker spot but also is tall and athletic enough to provide depth at outside linebacker. McCloughan said Brandon Moore and Jeff Ulbrich also would compete for the opening at Ted

· Look for the team to officially part ways with quarterback Trent Dilfer before the 15th when Dilfer is due a roster bonus

Wait and see donc...
Dilfer a annonce qu'il voulait rester a SF, mais plus forcement comme joueur.

OUF !! je préfère ça

Dans le desordre.

Smith VS Douglas dans le match 49ers - Bengals

Game log de Justin Smith

Game log de Marques Douglas

Dilfer qui veut revenir (cf posts precedents)

ninerolog a écrit:

D'après ESPN Radio, on vient de signer Bryant Johnson, ça fait un WR de chaque équipe de notre divison !

ça serait bien pour vous si ça s'avérait etre vrai

ninerolog a écrit:

Je ne sais pas si c'est une bonne chose, on verra son utilisation et sa production, un contrat d'un an en tout cas, on ne prend pas trop de risque.

en meme temps c'est vrai que Johnson peut etre un bon recrutement tout comme il peut etre un enorme bide

Et Battle dans tout ça? Va quand même pas finir #4, l'Arnaz...

ça a l'air de se confirmer

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Wide receiver Bryant Johnson has agreed to terms on a one-year deal with the San Francisco 49ers, a source told ESPN.com. Johnson, an unrestricted free agent, was a first-round pick (17th overall) by the Arizona Cardinals in 2003, and had spent his entire career with the Cardinals. Last season, he had 46 receptions for 528 yards and two touchdowns.

C'est presque dommage. Je voulais voir ce qu'il aurait donne avec un systeme pass happy.

Je sais pas si ca a ete dit, mais Dilfer a ete cutte...

ninerolog a écrit:

Du coup DJax fait ses valises !

Battle > Jackson

Enfin, j'espère...

Battle numero un et Jackson numéro deux ca pourrait être pas si mal. Et pi vous en parlez pas et avait l'air de 'loubliermais vous avez un garçon drafté le premier jour l'an dernier et qui a été blessé toute la saison, en l'occurence Jason Hill.

C'est un garcon qui a une vitesse assez impressionante et moi je suis plutot confiant pour lui dansun système comme celui de Mike Martz.

Jason Hill je me rappelle en effet ce mec est une vraie fusée il pourrait etre bon

xerios a écrit:

Battle numero un et Jackson numéro deux ca pourrait être pas si mal. Et pi vous en parlez pas et avait l'air de 'loubliermais vous avez un garçon drafté le premier jour l'an dernier et qui a été blessé toute la saison, en l'occurence Jason Hill.

C'est un garcon qui a une vitesse assez impressionante et moi je suis plutot confiant pour lui dansun système comme celui de Mike Martz.

pour info, Jackson vient d'être dégagé.
on se dirige plutot vers un Johnson/Bruce avec Battle en 3, Hill en 4 lelie en 5 si il est pas cutté, et j'espère un Wr à la draft

Oui effectivement y'a d'autres lacunes a combler en ce moment.

Voila ce qui est dit sur nous sur NFL.COM
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d8070d25e
Autant le receveur ca me dit rien, autant Trevor Laws ca m'emballe plus.
Z'en pensez quoi?

Et dans la rubrique on refait le passé, le trade up d'Indianapolis pour Tony Ugoh. Si SF avait pris ce joueur, vous en auriez pensé quoi?

Rappel du contexte de l'an dernier: Larry Allen etait un monstre. Notre garde de droite etait Smiley.